It all started with a cigarette burn.

John and Dan continue their conversation about ways to do Church differently through the lens of the 2023 Asbury College Revival. What sparks is a curious discussion about the "producer generation" and what implications may impact modern worship. ALSO – how to instantly get 100 new kids to come to youth group, why white milk is better than chocolate (humbly speaking) and a cigarette burn responsible for setting motion to the entire Ginghamsburg movement.